Red Equipment Comparison (Dragon, Ares, Achaemenidae)

Basic Crafting Requirements

  • At Forge level 27, dragon equipment can be crafted. (Scroll required.)
  • At Forge level 30, Ares equipment becomes craftable. (Requires an upgrade from dragon equipment)
  • At Forge level 33, Achaemenes equipment is available for crafting. (Scroll required.)

Reference : How to get Scroll

Note about Ares’ Crafting Requirements
there are other requirements to achieve besides the Forge Lv, and depending on the equipment, the difficulty of achieving them varies quite a bit.

For example, Weapons have relatively easy requirements (e.g., Archer camp lv30), but Armor requires “Wonder lv1” (i.e., top 5 in SvS individual ranking), Rings require “Own 6 Epic Historic Generals and each General’s power reaches 3.5M”, etc. Some people will find Achaemenes easier than Ares.

Basic Difference

  • Dragon is the weakest, and Ares and Achaemenidae are of equal strength (with different buffing directions). The total amount of materials and cost needed to craft is greater for Ares than for Achaemenidae, but that doesn’t mean that Achaemenes is a better deal.
  • Only Ares and Achaemenidae have equipment with debuffs.
  • The maximum additional buff you can get from refining equipment is 80% for dragons and 100% for Ares and Achaemenidae. Therefore, if efficiency is important, dragon equipment should not be refined. It should be upgraded to Ares before refining it. (For example, with dragon equipment, you can add 4 “Ranged Troop Attack +20%” for +80%, and with Ares equipment, you can add 4 “Ranged Troop Attack +25%” for +100%. (In theory.)

Ares & Achaemenidae’s Primary Usage

Broadly speaking, Ares tends to be good at attacking, Achaemenes good at defending and subordinate city mayor debuffs.

AresAchaemenidae
Bow (Ranged)PvP (Attack)PvP (Defense)
Spear (Mounted)Boss Monster Hunt & PvPPvP (vs Ground)
Axe (Siege)PvP (Attack)PvP (Defense)
Sword (Ground)PvPPvP
AresAchaemenidae

CourageousFearlessCourageousFearless
Helmet– PvP (Defense)– PvP (Attack)– Debuff
– PvP (Defense)
– Monster Hunt
– PvP (Defense)
– Debuff
Armor– PvP (Attack)
– Monster Hunt
– Debuff– Debuff– PvP (Defense)
– Debuff
Leg Armor– PvP (Defense)– PvP (Attack)
– Monster Hunt
– PvP (Defense)
– Debuff
– Debuff
Boots– PvP (Defense)– PvP (Attack)
– Monster Hunt
– Debuff
– PvP (Defense)
– Debuff
Ring– Debuff– Debuff– Debuff– Debuff

*PvP – Player vs Player

Detailed Comparison (Weapons)

Bow (Ranged)

Dragon BowAres BowAchaemenidae Bow
Primary UsagePvP (Attack & Defense)PvP (Attack)PvP (Defense)




Basic AttributesRanged Troop Attack +25%Ranged Troop Attack +30%Ranged Troop Attack +30%

March Speed +25%Marching Ranged Troop Attack +10%In City Ranged Troop Defense +15%

In City Ranged Troop Attack +6%Marching Ground Troop Defense +10%Enemy Siege Machine Attack -20%

Subordinate City Training Speed +20%March Speed +30%March Speed +30%




RequirementLv7 Dragon Scale x15Lv7 Dragon Scale x30Lv7 Dragon Scale x40

Lv7 iron x15Lv7 Bronze x20Lv7 Bronze x30

Lv7 Animal Bone x15Lv7 Animal Bone x20Lv7 Silver Pearl x30

Lv7 Meteorolite x15Lv7 Meteorolite x30Lv7 Wood x40





Dragon Bow Scroll800 Badges, 30M GoldAchaemenidae Bow Scroll





Forge Lv27Forge Lv30Forge Lv33


Archer Camp Lv30

Spear (Mounted)

Dragon SpearAres SpearAchaemenidae Spear
Primary UsageBoss Monster Hunt & PvPBoss Monster Hunt & PvPPvP (vs Ground)




Basic AttributesMounted Troop Attack +25%Mounted Troop Attack +30%Mounted Troop Attack +30%

Marching Mounted Troop Defense +5%Marching Mounted Troop Defense +10%Enemy Ground Troop Defense -20%

Siege Machine Defense +20%Marching Mounted Troop HP +10%Enemy Ground Troop HP -20%

March Speed to Monsters +40%March Speed to Monsters +45%March Speed to Monsters +45%




RequirementLv7 Dragon Scale x15Lv7 Dragon Scale x30Lv7 Dragon Scale x40

Lv7 iron x15Lv7 Bronze x20Lv7 Bronze x30

Lv7 Animal Bone x15Lv7 Animal Bone x20Lv7 Silver Pearl x30

Lv7 Meteorolite x15Lv7 Meteorolite x30Lv7 Wood x40





Dragon Spear Scroll800 Badges, 30M GoldAchaemenidae Spear Scroll





Forge Lv27Forge Lv30Forge Lv33


Stables Lv30

Axe (Siege)

Dragon AxeAres AxeAchaemenidae Axe
Primary UsagePvP (Attack & Defense)PvP (Attack)PvP (Defense)




Basic AttributesSiege Machine Attack +25%Siege Machine Attack +30%Siege Machine Attack +30%

Marching Siege Machine HP +6%Marching Siege Machine HP +10%Enemy Ground Troop HP -20%

Increase Construction Speed in Subordinate City +15%Ranged Troop Defense +20%Enemy Ranged Troop HP -20%

Ranged Troop Defense +20%Enemy Ranged Troop HP -18%In City Ground Troop Defense +15%




RequirementLv7 Dragon Scale x15Lv7 Dragon Scale x30Lv7 Dragon Scale x40

Lv7 iron x15Lv7 Bronze x20Lv7 Bronze x30

Lv7 Animal Bone x15Lv7 Animal Bone x20Lv7 Silver Pearl x30

Lv7 Meteorolite x15Lv7 Meteorolite x30Lv7 Wood x40





Dragon Axe Scroll800 Badges, 30M GoldAchaemenidae Axe Scroll





Forge Lv27Forge Lv30Forge Lv33


Workshop Lv30

Sword (Ground)

Dragon SwordAres SwordAchaemenidae Sword
Primary UsagePvPPvPPvP




Basic AttributesGround Troop Attack +25%Ground Troop Attack +30%Ground Troop Attack +30%

Marching Ground Troop Defense +5%In City Ground Troop Defense +15%In City Ground Troop Defense +15%

Troop Load +15%Enemy Mounted Troop HP -18%Enemy Mounted Troop Attack -20%

Subordinate City Training Speed +20%Troop Load +17%Troop Load +17%




RequirementLv7 Dragon Scale x15Lv7 Dragon Scale x30Lv7 Dragon Scale x40

Lv7 iron x15Lv7 Bronze x20Lv7 Bronze x30

Lv7 Animal Bone x15Lv7 Animal Bone x20Lv7 Silver Pearl x30

Lv7 Meteorolite x15Lv7 Meteorolite x30Lv7 Wood x40





Dragon Sword Scroll800 Badges, 30M GoldAchaemenidae Sword Scroll





Forge Lv27Forge Lv30Forge Lv33


Barracks Lv30

Detailed Comparison (Protectors)

Helmet

Dragon HelmetAres HelmetAchaemenidae Helmet

Courageous Dragon HelmetCourageous Ares HelmetCourageous Achaemenidae Helmet
Primary UsageGround, WallGround, WallWall, Mayor-Debuff, Mounted




Basic AttributesGround Troop Attack +15%Ground Troop Attack +17%Mounted Troop Attack +17%

Ground Troop HP +15%Ground Troop HP +17%Enemy Ground Troop Defense -20%

Siege Machine Defense +15%Siege Machine Defense +17%Enemy Ground Troop HP -20%

In City Ground Troop Defense +5%In City Ground Troop Defense +10%In City Ranged Troop Attack +10%





Fearless Dragon HelmetFearless Ares HelmetFearless Achaemenidae Helmet
Primary UsageMounted, RangedMounted, RangedWall, Mayor-Debuff




Basic AttributesRanged Troop Attack +15%Ranged Troop Attack +17%Ground Troop HP +17%

Mounted Troop HP +15%Mounted Troop HP +17%Mounted Troop HP +17%

Siege Machine Attack +15%Siege Machine Attack +17%Enemy Mounted Troop Attack -20%

Marching Siege Machine Defense +5%Marching Mounted Troop HP +7%In City Mounted Troop Attack +10%





Courageous & Fearless

RequirementLv7 Dragon Scale x15Lv7 Dragon Scale x20Lv7 Dragon Scale x30

Lv7 Iron x15Lv7 Iron x20Lv7 Iron x30

Lv7 Bronze x15Lv7 Wood x30Lv7 Wood x40

Lv7 Blue Stone x15Lv7 Blue Stone x30Lv7 Blue Stone x40





Dragon Helmet Scroll800 Badges, 30M GoldAchaemenidae Helmet Scroll





Forge Lv27Forge Lv30Forge Lv33


Super Defending Troop Defense Lv25

Armor

Dragon ArmorAres ArmorAchaemenidae Armor

Courageous Dragon ArmorCourageous Ares ArmorCourageous Achaemenidae Armor
Primary UsageMounted, RangedMounted, RangedRanged, Wall, Mayor-Debuff




Basic AttributesMounted Troop Attack +15%Mounted Troop Attack +17%Siege Machine Attack +17%

Mounted Troop Defense +15%Mounted Troop Defense +17%Siege Machine Defense +17%

Marching Mounted Troop HP +5%Marching Mounted Troop HP +7%Enemy Siege Machine Attack -20%

Ranged Troop HP +15%Ranged Troop HP +17%Enemy Mounted Troop Defense -20%





Fearless Dragon ArmorFearless Ares ArmorFearless Achaemenidae Armor
Primary UsageGround, Ranged, WallGround, Wall, Mayor-DebuffWall, Mayor-Debuff




Basic AttributesGround Troop Defense +15%Ground Troop Defense +17%Ground Troop Defense +17%

Siege Machine HP +15%Ground Troop HP +17%Ground Troop HP +17%

Ranged Troop Defense +15%Enemy Ranged Troop Attack -20%Enemy Mounted Troop Defense -20%

In City Ground Troop Defense +5%Enemy Siege Machine Attack -20%In City Ranged Troop Attack +10%





Courageous & Fearless

RequirementLv7 Feather x15Lv7 Feather x20Lv7 Feather x30

Lv7 Animal Bone x15Lv7 Animal Bone x30Lv7 Animal Bone x40

Lv7 Leather x15Lv7 Leather x20Lv7 Leather x30

Lv7 Purple Crystal x15Lv7 Purple Crystal x30Lv7 Purple Crystal x40





Dragon Armor Scroll800 Badges, 30M GoldAchaemenidae Armor Scroll





Forge Lv27Forge Lv30Forge Lv33


Wonder Lv1

Leg Armor

Dragon Leg ArmorAres Leg ArmorAchaemenidae Leg Armor

Courageous Dragon Leg ArmorCourageous Ares Leg ArmorCourageous Achaemenidae Leg Armor
Primary UsageRanged, Mounted, Siege, WallRanged, Mounted, Siege, WallRanged, Siege, Wall, Mayor-Debuff




Basic AttributesRanged Troop Defense +15%Ranged Troop Defense +17%Ranged Troop Attack +17%

Mounted Troop HP +15%Mounted Troop HP +17%Siege Machine HP +17%

Siege Machine Attack +15%Siege Machine Attack +17%Enemy Mounted Troop Attack -20%

In City Ranged Troop Defense +5%In City Ranged Troop Defense +10%In City Ranged Troop Defense +10%





Fearless Dragon Leg ArmorFearless Ares Leg ArmorFearless Achaemenidae Leg Armor
Primary UsageGround, MountedGround, MountedGround, Siege, Mayor-Debuff




Basic AttributesGround Troop HP +15%Ground Troop HP +17%Ground Troop HP +17%

Mounted Troop Attack +15%Mounted Troop Attack +17%Siege Machine Attack +17%

Marching Mounted Troop Defense +5%Marching Mounted Troop Defense +7%Enemy Ranged Troop Defense -20%

Subordinate City Training Speed +22%Marching Ground Troop Defense +7%Enemy Siege Machine Attack -20%





Courageous & Fearless

RequirementLv7 Dragon Scale x15Lv7 Dragon Scale x20Lv7 Dragon Scale x30

Lv7 Iron x15Lv7 Iron x30Lv7 Iron x40

Lv7 Feather x15Lv7 Feather x20Lv7 Feather x30

Lv7 Silver Pearl x15Lv7 Silver Pearl x30Lv7 Silver Pearl x40





Dragon Leg Armor Scroll800 Badges, 30M GoldAchaemenidae Leg Armor Scroll





Forge Lv27Forge Lv30Forge Lv33


Hospital Lv30

Boots

Dragon BootsAres BootsAchaemenidae Boots

Courageous Dragon BootsCourageous Ares BootsCourageous Achaemenidae Boots
Primary UsageGround, Siege, WallGround, Siege, WallGround, Wall, Mayor-Debuff




Basic AttributesGround Troop Defense +15%Ground Troop Defense +17%Ground Troop Defense +17%

Siege Machine HP +15%Siege Machine HP +17%Enemy Siege Machine Attack -20%

In City Siege Machine Attack +5%In City Siege Machine Attack +10%Enemy Mounted Troop Attack -20%

All Troops Load +22%All Troops Load +24%In City Ranged Troop Attack +10%





Fearless Dragon BootsFearless Ares BootsFearless Achaemenidae Boots
Primary UsageMounted, RangedMounted , RangedRanged, Mounted, Mayor-Debuff




Basic AttributesMounted Troop Defense +15%Ranged Troop HP +17%Ranged Troop HP +17%

Ranged Troop HP +15%Mounted Troop Defense +17%Mounted Troop HP +17%

Marching Mounted Troop Attack +5%Marching Mounted Troop Attack +7%Enemy Siege Machine Attack -20%

March Speed +22%March Speed +24%March Speed +24%





Courageous & Fearless

RequirementLv7 Red Agate x15Lv7 Red Agate x30Lv7 Red Agate x40

Lv7 Leather x15Lv7 Leather x30Lv7 Leather x40

Lv7 Meteorolite x15Lv7 Meteorolite x20Lv7 Meteorolite x30

Lv7 Bronze x15Lv7 Bronze x20Lv7 Bronze x30





Dragon Boots Scroll800 Badges, 30M GoldAchaemenidae Boots Scroll





Forge Lv27Forge Lv30Forge Lv33


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Ring

Special Note – If you are looking for a Double Drop, the “Courageous Dragon Ring” is the choice. (Ares and Achaemenidae don’t have it.)

Dragon RingAres RingAchaemenidae Ring

Courageous Dragon RingCourageous Ares RingCourageous Achaemenidae Ring
Primary UsageMonster Hunt, SiegeSiege, Mounted, Mayor-DebuffSiege, Mounted, Mayor-Debuff




Basic AttributesKilling Monster EXP +20%Mounted Troop Defense +20%Mounted Troop Defense +20%

Double Items Drop Rate
from Monsters +20%
Siege Machine Attack +20%Siege Machine Attack +20%

Siege Machine Attack +18%Enemy Ranged Troop Defense -18%Enemy Ranged Troop Attack -20%

Increases
Gold Production Speed in
Subordinate City +26%
Siege Machine Attack Range +5%Siege Machine Attack Range +5%





Fearless Dragon RingFearless Ares RingFearless Achaemenidae Ring
Primary UsageRanged, GroundGround, Ranged, Mayor-DebuffRanged, Mayor-Debuff




Basic AttributesRanged Troop HP +18%Ground Troop Defense +20%Ranged Troop Defense +20%

Ground Troop Attack +18%Ranged Troop Attack +20%Ranged Troop Attack +20%

Increases
Construction Speed in
Subordinate City +25%
Enemy Mounted Troop Attack -18%Enemy Ground Troop HP -20%

March Size Capacity +5%March Size Capacity +6%Enemy Mounted Troop HP -20%





Courageous & Fearless

RequirementLv7 Dragon Scale x15Lv7 Dragon Scale x20Lv7 Dragon Scale x30

Lv7 Blue Stone x15Lv7 Blue Stone x30Lv7 Blue Stone x40

Lv7 Red Agate x15Lv7 Red Agate x20Lv7 Red Agate x30

Lv7 Purple Crystal x15Lv7 Purple Crystal x30Lv7 Purple Crystal x40





Dragon Ring Scroll800 Badges, 30M GoldAchaemenidae Ring Scroll





Forge Lv27Forge Lv30Forge Lv33


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Forgot to mention. That is lot of effort to write these articles. Really appreciate. Really glad you have taken time and sharing your experience.

Any plan to upgrade this equipment lists brother? Waiting for the rest (leg armor, boots, ring).
Any suggestion for pure archer attack general?
For alfred i was thinking:
– Fearless Ares Bow
– Fearless Ares Helmet
– Courageous Ares Armor (or Courageous Achaemenidae Armor?)
– Fearless Achaemenidae Ring
– Courageous Achaemenidae Leg Armor
– Fearless Achaemenidae Boot(or Fearless Ares Boot)

I’m sorry for the wait. 😭  It’s taking me a while to make the list, but I will make it all.

Pure archer specialization (with little or no siege) If you mean that, then I think almost the same.
However, for boots, I would choose “Fearless Achaemenidae Boot”. (I would not choose the Fearless Ares Boot.)
The reason is that it has a debuff against siege machines, the natural enemy of archers.

In addition, if you want to use a “archer + siege”, I think the “Courageous Achaemenidae Armor” and “Courageous Achaemenidae Ring” are better. 😃

Nice guide.
A lot of work needed in this game. Who knows how long it will take to make all the attack, defense gears then the achae gears for subs. And refining each. But that’s the beauty of the game. Its a marathon. Not a sprint.

I’ve refined my dragon equipment to a pretty good point, but I’m having trouble running out of refining stones. If a member belongs to an alliance that can collect materials well, I think it would be better to hold out until Ares.

Like the material, the refining stone will be gone soon😭
Comparatively, I get a lot from the Vikings and I try my best to beat them, but it’s not enough 😂

I can understand the argument that “dragon equipment shouldn’t be refined,” but if I did, I’d have to fight with a weak general until I could make Ares.
It may be futile in the end, but that’s one way to play it, I think.

Thank you for your feedback! I think so too ☺️
I’m sorry for the way I wrote it 😭, because that’s if you’re looking for efficiency.
I made a few tweaks!

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If I upgrade from Dragon to Ares, will the star level upgraded in Dragon be reset?

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