Best of Ranged PvP General (9/13 updated)

9/13/2021 – Added generals that are now available in relics in “pay no money” section.
9/12/2021 – Added a note about unranked generals in “pay a lot of money” section, and added Edward the Black Prince.
8/4/2021 – Added Winfield Scott.
8/1/202 – Added the case of heavy charges & troop formation of “Ranged + Siege”. / Added rankings for reinforcements.
7/30/2021 – Changed the assumptions of the “pay no money” case / Added Tomyris / Changed all generals’ stats when using Lv4 skillbook

Stats Format : Leadership / Attack / Defense / Politics

A) If you pay no money

  • Assumptions
    • General – Only available in the Tavern / Great General Chest / Relics.
    • Specialty – Only the 3 left are considered. (Reference: Specialty Guide)

A-1) In the case of troop formation “Purely Ranged”

Example of troop formation: 90% ranged troops, 10% other troop layers

1. Elektra

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +35% (requires Dragon from Pasture / when attacking), Mounted Attack +15% (when attacking)
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +30% (when attacking), HP +20%, Defense +10%, Siege Attack +10% (when attacking), March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 115 / 110 / 115 / 112
  • Stats Increases – 9.03 / 8.87 / 9.11 / 8.26

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +90% (add)
  • Ranged HP +20%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

2. Minamoto no Yoshitsune

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +40% (requires Dragon from Pasture)
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +30%, HP+20%, Defense +10%, Siege Attack +10%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 113 / 117 / 106
  • Stats Increase – 9.03 / 8.51 / 8.77 / 8.39

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +70% (can’t add)
  • Ranged HP +45% (add)
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +12% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

3. Vladimir the Great

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +20%, Enemy Troop Attack -10%
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +30% (when attacking), HP +20%, Defense +10%, Siege Attack +10% (when attacking), March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 113 / 105 / 106 / 115
  • Stats Increases – 8.69 / 8.23 / 8.66 / 9.04

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +75% (add)
  • Ranged HP +20%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

4. Gwanggaeto the Great

  • Skill – Ranged & Siege Attack +20%
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +30% (when attacking), HP+10%, Defense +20%, Siege Attack +10% (when attacking), March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 110 / 112 / 108 / 107
  • Stats Increase – 9.13 / 8.47 / 8.46 / 8.67

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +75% (add)
  • Ranged HP +10%
  • Ranged Defense +20%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

5. Edward the Black Prince

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +25%, Enemy Mounted Attack -15%
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +20%, HP+20%, Defense +10%, Enemy Troop HP -10%
  • Base Stats – 111 / 109 / 116 / 93
  • Stats Increase – 8.96 / 8.39 / 8.83 / 7.94

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +45% (can’t add)
  • Ranged HP +45% (add)
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +12% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

NOTE – Edward is a peculiar general. He does not have a high attack, but he can have high HP. Therefore, he is not suitable for the purpose of sweeping the enemy mounted troops unilaterally, but he is suitable for the purpose of withstanding the attack of enemy siege machines and ranged troops.

Related: Troop Type Guide: Usage & Characteristics (Mounted, Ground, Ranged, Siege)

6. Winfield Scott

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +20%, All Troop Attack +5%
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +20%, Defense+10%, Siege Attack +10%, All Troop Attack +6%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 113 / 113 / 110
  • Stats Increase – 8.79 / 8.72 / 8.71 / 8.63

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +76% (add)
  • Ranged HP +0%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +12% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

7. Li Shimin

  • Skill – March Size +10%, Ranged Attack +15%
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +20% (when attacking), HP+10%, Siege Attack +10% (when attacking), March Size +6%, Troop death into troop soul rate in the main city +10%
  • Base Stats – 113 / 112 / 106 / 117
  • Stats Increase – 9.18 / 8.61 / 8.22 / 8.47

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +60% (add)
  • Ranged HP +10%
  • Ranged Defense +0%
  • March Size +28% (add) *NOTE: can’t use Lv1-3
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

A-2) In the case of troop formation “Ranged + Siege”

Example of troop formation: 70% ranged, 20% siege, 10% other troop layers

1. Gwanggaeto the Great

  • Skill – Ranged & Siege Attack +20%
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +30% (when attacking), HP+10%, Defense +20%, Siege Attack +10% (when attacking), March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 110 / 112 / 108 / 107
  • Stats Increase – 9.13 / 8.47 / 8.46 / 8.67

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +75% (add)
  • Siege Attack +30%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +6%

2. Elektra

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +35% (requires Dragon from Pasture / when attacking), Mounted Attack +15% (when attacking)
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +30% (when attacking), HP +20%, Defense +10%, Siege Attack +10% (when attacking), March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 115 / 110 / 115 / 112
  • Stats Increases – 9.03 / 8.87 / 9.11 / 8.26

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +90% (add)
  • Siege Attack +10%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +6%

3. Gustavus Adolphus

  • Skill – Ranged & Siege Attack +15%, Enemy Ranged & Siege Attack -15%
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +10%, Siege Attack +30%, HP+20%, Defense +10%
  • Base Stats – 106 / 115 / 95 / 110
  • Stats Increases – 8.98 / 8.69 / 8.28 / 8.51

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +50% (add)
  • Siege Attack +45%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +0%

A-3) Other special notes

Jumong

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +35%
  • Specialties (ONLY 3) – Ranged Attack +10%, HP+10%, Enemy Troop HP -10%, Troop death into troop soul rate in the main city +10%
  • Base Stats – 108 / 105 / 112 / 93
  • Stats Increase – 8.49 / 7.59 / 8.83 / 7.24

He cannot use the Ranged Attack skillbook, and his low stats increase makes him an unlikely candidate for recruitment.


B) If you pay a lot of money

  • Assumptions

B-1) In the case of troop formation “Purely Ranged”

Recommendations when paying a lot of money :
Simeon, Alfred, Electra, Tomyris, Minamoto

1. Simeon the Great

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +35% (requires Dragon / when attacking), Siege Attack +20% (when attacking)
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +55% (when attacking), Defense +45% (when attacking), Siege Attack +10% (when attacking), All Troops Attack +6%, March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 115 / 110 / 115 / 112
  • Stats Increases – 9.12 / 8.65 / 9.18 / 8.37

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +121% (add)
  • Ranged HP +0%
  • Ranged Defense +45%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

2. Alfred the Great

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +30% (when attacking), Siege Attack +20% (when attacking).
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +65% (when attacking), HP +10%, Defense +20%, Siege Attack +10% (when attacking), March Size +6%.
  • Base Stats – 117 / 112 / 116 / 112
  • Stats Increases – 9.03 / 8.64 / 8.87 / 8.56

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +120% (add)
  • Ranged HP +10%
  • Ranged Defense +20%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

3. Elektra

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +35% (requires Dragon from Pasture / when attacking), Mounted Attack +15% (when attacking)
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +56% (when attacking), HP +20%, Defense +10%, Siege Attack +10% (when attacking), Mounted Attack +26% (when attacking), March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 115 / 110 / 115 / 112
  • Stats Increases – 9.03 / 8.87 / 9.11 / 8.26

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +116% (add)
  • Ranged HP +20%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

4. Tomyris

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +35% (when attacking), Rally Capacity +5% (when launch Alliance War)
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +55% (when attacking), HP +45%  (when attacking), Defense +10%, Siege Attack +10%, Rally Capacity +5%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 108 / 116 / 114
  • Stats Increases – 9.11 / 8.55 / 9.22 / 8.34

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +115% (add)
  • Ranged HP +45%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +12% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

Special Note – If you want to increase the capacity of your rally, there is no other choice but Tomyris. (Max +10%)

5. Minamoto no Yoshitsune

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +40% (requires Dragon from Pasture)
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +76% (requires Dragon), HP +20%, Defense +10%, Siege Attack +10%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 113 / 117 / 106
  • Stats Increase – 9.03 / 8.51 / 8.77 / 8.39

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +116% (can’t add)
  • Ranged HP +45% (add)
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +12% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

6. Winfield Scott

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +20%, All Troop Attack +5%
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +55% (When attacking), Defense+10%, Siege Attack +10%, All Troop Attack +6%, March Size+10%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 113 / 113 / 110
  • Stats Increase – 8.79 / 8.72 / 8.71 / 8.63

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +111% (add)
  • Ranged HP +0%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +22% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

Note – About non-ranked generals

The following generals were excluded because they are below +100% ranged attack even with 4 specialties maximized and using Lv4 skill book.

Ranged Attack

  • Mehmed II +96%
  • Gwanggaeto the Great +91%
  • Vladimir the Great +75%
  • Edward the Black Prince +71% (can’t add skillbook)
  • Gustavus Adolphus +66%
  • Jumong +61% (can’t add skillbook)
  • Himiko +50%
  • Saladin +45%

* Assumptions for using skillbook – Ranged Attack

Note – If only the 3 left specialties are considered

Ranged Attack

  1. Elektra +90%
  2. Tomyris +90%
  3. Simeon the Great +86%
  4. Alfred the Great +85%
  5. Winfield Scott +76%
  6. Gwanggaeto the Great +75%
  7. Vladimir the Great +75%
  8. Minamoto no Yoshitsune +70% (can’t add skillbook)
  9. Mehmed II +60%
  10. Gustavus Adolphus +50%
  11. Himiko +50%
  12. Edward the Black Prince +45% (can’t add skillbook)
  13. Jumong +45% (can’t add skillbook)
  14. Saladin +45%

* Assumptions for using skillbook – Ranged Attack

B-2) In the case of troop formation “Ranged + Siege”

Recommendations when paying a lot of money : Simeon, Alfred.

1. Simeon the Great

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +121% (add)
  • Ranged HP +0%
  • Ranged Defense +45%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Attack +36%
  • Siege HP +0%
  • Siege Defense +0%
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +6%

2. Alfred the Great

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +120% (add)
  • Ranged HP +10%
  • Ranged Defense +20%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Attack +30%
  • Siege HP +0%
  • Siege Defense +0%
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +6%

3. Gwanggaeto the Great

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +91% (add)
  • Ranged HP +10%
  • Ranged Defense +30%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Attack +46%
  • Siege HP +0%
  • Siege Defense +10%
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +6%

4. Winfield Scott

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +111% (add)
  • Ranged HP +0%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Attack +21%
  • Siege HP +0%
  • Siege Defense +0%
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +10%

5. Gustavus Adolphus

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +66% (add)
  • Ranged HP +16%
  • Ranged Defense +0%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Attack +61%
  • Siege HP +36%
  • Siege Defense +10%
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +0%

6. Elektra

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +116% (add)
  • Ranged HP +20%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Attack +10%
  • Siege HP +0%
  • Siege Defense +0%
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +6%

7. Minamoto no Yoshitsune

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +116% (can’t add)
  • Ranged HP +45% (add)
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Attack +10%
  • Siege HP +0%
  • Siege Defense +0%
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +0%

8. Tomyris

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +115% (add)
  • Ranged HP +45%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)
  • Siege Attack +10%
  • Siege HP +0%
  • Siege Defense +0%
  • Siege Range +200 (add)
  • March Size +0%

Note – About non-ranked generals

The following generals were excluded because their combined ranged and siege attack is less than +125% even with 4 specialties maximized and using Lv4 skill book.

Ranged Attack / Siege Attack

  • Mehmed II +96% / +10%
  • Vladimir the Great +75% / +10%
  • Edward the Black Prince +71% / +0% (can’t add ranged attack skillbook)
  • Jumong +61% / +0% (can’t add ranged attack skillbook)
  • Saladin +45% / +10%
  • Himiko +50% / +0%

* Assumptions for using skillbooks – Ranged Range, Siege Range, Ranged Attack

Note – If only the 3 left specialties are considered

Ranged Attack / Siege Attack

  1. Simeon the Great +86% / +36%
  2. Alfred the Great +85% / +30%
  3. Gwanggaeto the Great +75% / +30%
  4. Elektra +90% / +10%
  5. Tomyris +90% / +10%
  6. Winfield Scott +76% / +21%
  7. Gustavus Adolphus +50% / +45%
  8. Vladimir the Great +75% / +10%
  9. Minamoto no Yoshitsune +70% / +10% (can’t add ranged attack skillbook)
  10. Mehmed II +60% / +10%
  11. Saladin +45% / +10%
  12. Himiko +50% / +0%
  13. Edward the Black Prince +45% / +0% (can’t add ranged attack skillbook)
  14. Jumong +45% / +0% (can’t add ranged attack skillbook)

* Assumptions for using skillbooks – Ranged Range, Siege Range, Ranged Attack


Reinforcements ranking

When reinforcing an alliance member’s city, “when General is leading the army to attack” buff is disabled.
(See this article for details: Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide)

  • Assumptions – Same as for “pay a lot of money”

Recommendations : Minamoto, Edward the Black Prince, Dmitry.

1. Minamoto no Yoshitsune

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +40% (requires Dragon from Pasture)
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +76% (requires Dragon), HP +20%, Defense +10%, Siege Attack +10%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 113 / 117 / 106
  • Stats Increase – 9.03 / 8.51 / 8.77 / 8.39

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +116% (can’t add)
  • Ranged HP +45% (add)
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +12% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

2. Edward the Black Prince

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +25%, Enemy Mounted Attack -15%
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +46%, HP+46%, Defense +10%, Enemy Troop HP -10%
  • Base Stats – 111 / 109 / 116 / 93
  • Stats Increase – 8.96 / 8.39 / 8.83 / 7.94

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +71% (can’t add)
  • Ranged HP +71% (add)
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +12% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

NOTE – Edward is a peculiar general. He does not have a high attack, but he can have high HP. Therefore, he is not suitable for the purpose of sweeping the enemy mounted troops unilaterally, but he is suitable for the purpose of withstanding the attack of enemy siege machines and ranged troops.

Related: Troop Type Guide: Usage & Characteristics (Mounted, Ground, Ranged, Siege)

3. Dmitry

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +30% (when Reinforce), Ground HP & Defense +20% (when Reinforce)
  • Specialties –  Ranged Attack +20%, HP+10%, Defense+20%, All Troop Attack+16% (when Reinforce), HP+16% (when Reinforce), Enemy Troop Attack -10%
  • Base Stats – 116 / 109 / 116 / 111
  • Stats Increases – 8.67 / 8.25 / 8.76 / 8.73

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +91% (add)
  • Ranged HP +26%
  • Ranged Defense +20%
  • March Size +12% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

4. Gwanggaeto the Great

  • Skill – Ranged & Siege Attack +20%
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +36%, HP+10%, Defense +30%, Siege Attack +16%, Defense+10%, March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 110 / 112 / 108 / 107
  • Stats Increase – 9.13 / 8.47 / 8.46 / 8.67

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +81% (add)
  • Ranged HP +10%
  • Ranged Defense +30%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

5. Alfred the Great

  • Skill – None
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +55%, HP +10%, Defense +20%, March Size +6%.
  • Base Stats – 117 / 112 / 116 / 112
  • Stats Increases – 9.03 / 8.64 / 8.87 / 8.56

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +80% (add)
  • Ranged HP +10%
  • Ranged Defense +20%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

6. Winfield Scott

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +20%, All Troop Attack +5%
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +20%, Defense+10%, Siege Attack +10%, All Troop Attack +6%, March Size+10%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 113 / 113 / 110
  • Stats Increase – 8.79 / 8.72 / 8.71 / 8.63

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +76% (add)
  • Ranged HP +0%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +22% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

7. Elektra

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +20% (requires Dragon from Pasture)
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +20%, HP +20%, Defense +10%, March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 115 / 110 / 115 / 112
  • Stats Increases – 9.03 / 8.87 / 9.11 / 8.26

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +65% (add)
  • Ranged HP +20%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

8. Simeon the Great

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +15% (requires Dragon)
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +10%, Defense +10%, All Troops Attack +6%, March Size +6%
  • Base Stats – 115 / 110 / 115 / 112
  • Stats Increases – 9.12 / 8.65 / 9.18 / 8.37

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +56% (add)
  • Ranged HP +0%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +18% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

9. Tomyris

  • Skill – Rally Capacity +5% (when launch Alliance War)
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +30%, HP +20%, Defense +10%, Siege Attack +10%, Rally Capacity +5%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 108 / 116 / 114
  • Stats Increases – 9.11 / 8.55 / 9.22 / 8.34

Example of adding a skillbook Lv4

  • Ranged Attack +55% (add)
  • Ranged HP +20%
  • Ranged Defense +10%
  • March Size +12% (add)
  • Ranged Range +100 (add)

Note – About non-ranked generals

The following generals were excluded because they are below +70% ranged attack even with 4 specialties maximized and using Lv4 skill book.

Ranged Attack (Reinforce)

  • Vladimir the Great +65%
  • Jumong +61%
  • Gustavus Adolphus +50%
  • Himiko +50%
  • Mehmed II +35%
  • Saladin +35%

Note: If only the 3 left specialties are considered

Ranged Attack (Reinforce)

  1. Winfield Scott +75%
  2. Dmitry +75%
  3. Minamoto no Yoshitsune +70% (can’t add ranged attack skillbook)
  4. Elektra +65%
  5. Gwanggaeto the Great +65%
  6. Vladimir the Great +65%
  7. Jumong +61% (can’t add ranged attack skillbook)
  8. Simeon the Great +56%
  9. Tomyris +55%
  10. Gustavus Adolphus +50%
  11. Himiko +50%
  12. Edward the Black Prince +45% (can’t add ranged attack skillbook)
  13. Alfred the Great +45%
  14. Mehmed II +35%
  15. Saladin +35%

* Assumptions for using skillbooks – Ranged Attack


Note – Simeon & Alfred’s Weaknesses

Simeon can be considered the best general only when attacking (marching), but when reinforcing (alliance member’s city), or defending main city (on wall), his performance drops significantly.

Alfred is not bad if you can maximize the 4th specialty. However, if you can’t do that, his performance will be significantly lower when reinforcing as well.

If you are using them as your main general, some players may need to train a separate general for reinforcements.

Note – The following cases are no problem. Attack buffs (march buffs) are applied.

– When participating in a rally / starting a rally by yourself
– When sending reinforcements / defending / attacking an occupied building on the map (Portal, Temple, etc.)

Detailed explanation: Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide

Note – Minamoto’s Versatility

Unlike Simeon, Alfred, and Elektra, Minamoto no Yoshitsune’s skills and specialties are always fully demonstrated, not just when attacking.

Therefore, it is also excellent when used as a Reinforcement & Defense general. (Reference: Best of Defense General (Wall))

If your defense general isn’t growing up enough, it’s good enough to use him in a dual role. (Although it is troublesome to put it on and off the defense general each time)

Note – Elektra & Minamoto’s Dragon

Elektra and Minamoto no Yoshitsune get the ranged attack buff by attaching a dragon.

But only the dragons in the Pasture.

Wander’s dragon does not.

Note – Regarding the “If you use skillbook Lv4” in the article

Basically, “Ranged Troop Range Bonus” should be mandatory for Ranged PvP Generals, so please keep that in mind. (In some cases, the same goes for “March Size” and “Siege Machine Range Bonus”.)

It is not recommended to add all three: Attack, HP, and Defense.

For more information on why, please refer to the following article.
Best Skills Guide – what skills should you add?

Related – Other Recommended Generals

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Per elektra che libri usare e che tipo di truppe usare per l’attacco

You have done a great job in general rankings. I love your articles. Just one suggestion that the stats growth should be considered. Those could be a 10% or even more difference when they get to Lv35 which might have significant impact on the final ranking.

Edward has been added to the article.
Winfield is better in attack. Edward is better in overall performance, including HP, defense, debuff.
This is true whether you max out 4 specialties or only 3.
Also, when reinforcing, Edward is better.

Thanks a lot for this comprehensive guide! I got Tang Taizong, seems to be a good Ranged General. What is your opinion? I have Winfield Scott and Tang Taizong, Not sure what is a better choice.

Tang Taizong is “Li Shimin”, which is his English name in the game.
He and Winfield are listed in the A-1 section above, and that’s the ranking from my perspective.
If you are paying a small amount of money, I think Winfield is the better choice.
If you are paying a heavy amount of money, I would not recommend either of them.

Thanks for the clarification and your guidance! That helped a lot. Was not Aware that Tang is Li 😀 have a Great weekend!

Mohammad11

I enjoyed your article. I am using saige attack 4 skill book on Minamoto .. Does this help me or not?

I don’t recommend adding the siege machine skill, because I believe that if you use Minamoto no Yoshitsune, you should specialize in ranged troops.
However, if you really want to use siege machine, I think you should add “siege machine range” instead of “siege machine attack”.
For more information, please refer to the following guide.
Best Skills Guide – what skills should you add?

Good evening. I’m raising Simeon, but if I’m sending Simeon to the throne and I get attacked by the enemy, am I correct in thinking that Simeon’s buffs are invalid?
I hope you can help me out.

When a building you are occupying is attacked.
and
When you reinforce a building occupied by an ally and it is attacked.
The buffs are effective in both cases. (I have verified this.)

In the game description, the phrase “when they are attacking” is used, but this is not an accurate description.
The following article explains the details.
Buff / Debuff – Basic Guide

Thank you for your answer.
It’s a complicated notation…
The endgame of this game depends greatly on the general. I’ll work on my equipment and dragons.🥲

I have Tomyris in my possession. I’m a beginner so I’m still low level, but I have attached a lvl 3 ranged troop attack (+20%) to her.

Hello. Li shimin increase attack of archer or of archer and siege?
Thanks

What is increased by the original skill is the ranged troops attack.
Increasing the specialty will also increase the attack of siege machine.

Dali! onacid

Minamoto
Range attack 116%
Range Defense 10%
Range HP 20%
March Size 0%

Alfred
Range attack 95%
Range Defense 20%
Range HP 10%
March Size 6%

Before using skill book, then you have to use “Ranged Troop Range Bonus” on both of them. Then you will probably use Range attack on Alfred and Range HP or Def. On Minamoto you will be able to use HP and Def or march size if you prefer to go that way. So you will end up with those stats most likely ..

Minamoto
Range attack 116%
Range Defense 35%
Range HP 45%
March Size 0%

Alfred
Range attack 120%
Range Defense 20%
Range HP 35%
March Size 6%

So.. overall i feel like minamoto have a slight advantage over alfred.. but both are pretty damn good

I also think they are both pretty good. If I had to say, I think Alfred is slightly superior when attacking, and Minamoto is superior when reinforcing. 🤔

Hi there, again 😄
I wonder more and more about reinforcing buildings. And the native skills of generals which are phrased „when general is leading the army to attack“ is not in effect when reinforcing a building or player. In contrast there are generals which do not have this phrase, like Gwanggaeto. And it seems like Minamoto, too, in case his text is not only an impractical language variation of the same attack meaning.

In case these two generals really do work while reinforcing players or buildings an additional subheader „for reinforcements“ with an own ranking could make sense?!

In case Minamoto is such a general he would be a best overall fit. And at least a great secondary for Battlefield or throne war.

What are your thoughts and experiments about that topic?

Grateful greetings,
FreyKey

I added a ranking for reinforcements. I think Minamoto or Dmitry is the top choice, followed by Gwanggaeto, who is excellent.

Unlike the other generals, Minamoto is excellent in attack, reinforcements, and defense. I think he is a general worthy of special mention. 🤔

Anonymous

New General Tomyris. As a Ranged General, would you rate her as roughly equal to Elektra, and just behind Alfred and Simeon?

That’s true if all 4 specialties are maxed out. Elektra is better in terms of march size, and Tomyris is better in terms of HP and rally capacity.

What about Tomyris. Looks better than Minamoto. What’s your opinion?

If all 4 specialties are maxed out, it is almost the same. However, Tomyris is better in terms of rallying (Leader), and Minamoto is better in terms of reinforcements and defense.

When only the left 3 specialties are maxed out, Tomyris is better in terms of attack, but Minamoto is better in terms of HP.

Dali! onacid

May you please update the way you presented the range generals, I like the way you did it with the ground generals you also added maxed stats on HP and Defense so we can consider those stats when deciding on which general we should commit to. Thank you very much for your hard work it really helps to improve our game play experience

Dali! onacid

Is it true that If you could add the 25% ranged attack Yoshitsune would be too broken for the game

If it were possible, it would be 141% at max specialties, 20% more than Simeon, which would put Yoshitsune in first place, but I don’t think it would break the game. 🤔
The top players have buffs in excess of 1100%. This is not a dramatic difference in a fight in that class.

I don’t see you mentioning Thunder Scorpion (beast) to attach at a general.
Level 10 gives +30% archer attack, +30% archer defense, +30% archer HP and +30% march speed.
So isn’t he better than any dragon to attach?

Depending on how you raise them, dragons may be better overall.
A level 10 dragon has an approximate +100 attribute boost, so it will get about 20% attack, HP, and defense buffs.
If you have a level 10 Celtic Demon, you can get skill buffs such as ranged attack +25%, march size +15%, and so on.
You can also add 4 buffs of your choice by refining. If you set all of them as ranged attack, you can get up to +60%. (In the case of Celtic Demon)
Related : Dragon Complete Guide – Type, Buff, Enhance

You mentioned Minamoto no Yoshitsune cannot have ranged attack skill book. Does it mean that you don’t recommend adding skill book or game prevents adding that skill book?

えぼふぁん

Thanks for the great information. I am having trouble skilling my Li Shinmin.
I want to add ranged attack, range bonus, and march size. I believe that March Size is only a lvl 4 skill that can be added to him, but I can’t seem to get it right. If I put March Size on Li Shinmin, I think he will have an advantage over Yoshitsune in terms of ranged attacks.

This is a really great guide. Thank you.

I have Minamoto no Yoshitsune, Simeon the Great, and Alfred the Great, and I’m looking to create a ranged PvP General. I also have 2 dragons.

Which one should I concentrate on?

The article says that Simeon requires a dragon, but does Simeon’s skill markings not glow when he wears a dragon, like Minamoto no Yoshitsune or Elektra?
Does this mean that Simeon needs to be a wonder dragon instead of a pasture dragon? Or is it okay to use either?
The skill area didn’t glow when I put on the Pasture’s Dragon.
That’s the only thing that bothered me, because I can’t wear a dragon of wonder.

The in-game instructions say that “any dragon”, so I think Wonder’s dragon will be fine.
This game is so lax, you shouldn’t care if your unique skills shine or not.😭
The only way to check the effect is to attack dead castles both with and without dragons, and check the buffs in the Battle Report.

Do you think Simeon the Great slightly better than Alfred as at the start he starts with 35% vs Alfred’s 30%? After maxing all the specialty they look same though (120% vs 121%).
Or do you think Alfred is still better with the slightly better base stats? (of course I am not considering their siege capabilities as they are weak anyway)

Assuming maxed specialties, if I had to guess, I’d say Simeon.
However, this is for k35 players who have gone through all the elements to the point where a 1% difference cannot be ignored.
For those who don’t, as a practical matter, I think you should raise the one you get first.
A 1% difference can be quickly turned around, especially with equipment refinement.
Additional note – Simeon has high ranged defense, but no ranged HP. I don’t know how much of a difference this makes to Alfred in terms of wins and losses. However, this is one of the reasons.

へぼにあん

The March size increase does not apply to the bonus amount, but only to the base number, so even if the rally spot is level 35, it will only increase by about 40,000 troops…

I’m new to the game so I have most likley missunderstood how damage is calculated but don’t you think march size is better than attack? I would believe final troop damage is someting like [troop damage * troop amount]. Troop damge can be broken down into base troop damage * (1+added atk%) where “added atk%” consists of all the sources added up.

I dont know realistic numbers for an example so i’ll just make some up. Say you have 10 k base troop damage, +900% attack, 500k base march size and +100% march size which with above assumption would make for [10 k * (1+900%)] * (500 k * (1+100%)] = [100 k] * [1 M] = 100 B final damage.

To add 20% attack to this silly example would make it [10 k * (1+920%)] * (500 k * (1+100%)] = [102 k] * [1 M] = 102 B final damage => 2% increase in final damage.

Whereas adding 20 march size would make it [10 k * (1+900%)] * (500 k * (1+120%)] = [100 k] * [1,1 M] = 110 B final damage. => 10% increase in final damage.

Even if this is not how damage is calculated I would think adding march size would help you by adding “HP” too and therefore perhaps “worth” more than attack for that reason?

Thanks for a great guide!

I appreciate you taking the time to write a detailed discussion. Thank you very much. 😃

I am thinking the same thing as you as a hypothesis.
However, I have not been able to verify it enough to make a definite conclusion.
(That’s why I use the phrase “you can think…” in this article.)

As for the point in this article where I mentioned “if you add March Size, you can think of…”, it is based on the same idea as yours, but one different case is taken into consideration.
That is, if there is no buffing at all in the base value before comparison.
I’ll borrow your example to illustrate.
– Base = 10k base troop damage, 500k base march size
– +20% attack = [(10k * 1.2) * 500k].
– +20% march size = [10k * (500k * 1.2)].
and in this case the damage is expected to be the same.

Therefore, my current hypothesis is
“march size >= attack”.
(However, as a practical matter, I think there are many cases like your example. 😃)

When you talk about a purely ranged troop formation, can you give me an example of the troop type percentages in that case? and maybe compare them to a range/siege pvp troop formation setup by percentage?

Here’s a rough guide. 😃
– Purely Ranged – 90% ranged, 10% other troop layers
– Ranged + Siege – 60-70% ranged, 20-30% siege, 10% other troop layers

Thank you for all the great information. I can’t seem to get Minamoto no Yoshitsune, so I’m raising Li Shinmin instead.
I understand the rock-paper-scissors relationship between cavalry, archers, and ground troops, but should I think of siege without such rock-paper-scissors relationship? I’ve always wondered, since siege kill a lot of enemies in PvP.

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