Best of Defense General (Wall)

Assumptions

  • If you only pay a little money… Buffs due to Speciality are not taken into account. (Because it’s not realistic)
  • If you pay a lot of money… Buffs due to Speciality are taken into account.

Stats Format : Leadership / Attack / Defense / Politics

A) If you only pay a little money

*Only generals available at the tavern or in the “Great General Chest”.

A-1) When focusing on Ranged + Siege

1. Joseph E. Johnston

  • Skill – Ranged & Siege Attack +20%, Mounted HP +15%
  • Base Stats – 111 / 105 / 118 / 101
  • Stats Increase – 8.92 / 8.57 / 8.56 / 8.48

If you use skill book to add Ranged Attack Lv4 (25%), Ranged Attack will be +45%.
If you use skill book to add Siege Attack Lv4 (25%), Siege Attack will be +45%.

2. Gwanggaeto the Great

  • Skill – Ranged & Siege Attack +20%
  • Base Stats – 110 / 112 / 108 / 107
  • Stats Increase – 9.13 / 8.47 / 8.46 / 8.67

If you use skill book to add Ranged Attack Lv4 (25%), Ranged Attack will be +45%.
If you use skill book to add Siege Attack Lv4 (25%), Siege Attack will be +45%.

3. Gustavus Adolphus

  • Skill – Ranged & Siege Attack +15%, Enemy Ranged & Siege Defense -15%
  • Base Stats – 106 / 115 / 95 / 110
  • Stats Increases – 8.98 / 8.69 / 8.28 / 8.51

If you use skill book to add Ranged Attack Lv4 (25%), Ranged Attack will be +40%.
If you use skill book to add Siege Attack Lv4 (25%), Siege Attack will be +40%.

A-2) When focusing on Ranged

Ly Thuong Kiet

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +30%, Ranged Defense +30%, Trap triggering rate +60%
  • Base Stats – 103 / 107 / 115 / 105
  • Stats Increases – 8.83 / 8.29 / 8.63 / 7.83

If you use skill book to add Ranged Attack Lv4 (25%), Ranged Attack will be +55%.

A-3) When focusing on Siege

1. Trần Hưng Đạo

  • Skill – Siege Attack +30%, Ground HP +20%
  • Base Stats – 108 / 102 / 113 / 109
  • Stats Increases – 8.45 / 8.37 / 8.55 / 8.38

If you use skill book to add Siege Attack Lv4 (25%), Siege Attack will be +55%.

2. Ulysses S. Grant

  • Skill – Siege & Mounted Attack +30%  (requires Dragon from Pasture)
  • Base Stats – 114 / 120 / 115 / 100
  • Stats Increases – 8.79 / 8.80 / 8.95 / 8.25

If you use skill book to add Siege Attack Lv4 (25%), Siege Attack will be +55%.

B) If you pay a lot of money

Assuming maxed specialties, the ranking is as follows.

B-1) When focusing on Ranged + Siege

1. Joseph E. Johnston

  • Skill – Ranged & Siege Attack +20%, Mounted HP +15%
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +56%, Ranged Defense +10%, Siege Attack +46%, All Troops Attack +6%, Trap triggering rate +20%
  • Base Stats – 111 / 105 / 118 / 101
  • Stats Increase – 8.92 / 8.57 / 8.56 / 8.48

If you use skill book to add Ranged Attack Lv4 (25%), Ranged Attack will be +107%.
If you use skill book to add Siege Attack Lv4 (25%), Siege Attack will be +97%.

2. Zachary Taylor

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +50%
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +45%, Ranged HP +10%, Siege Attack +35%, All Troops Attack +6%, Trap triggering rate +20%, Hospital Capacity +10%
  • Base Stats – 114 / 120 / 115 / 100
  • Stats Increase – 8.84 / 8.78 / 8.87 / 8.59

If you use skill book to add Ranged Attack Lv4 (25%), Ranged Attack will be +126%.
If you use skill book to add Siege Attack Lv4 (25%), Siege Attack will be +66%.

B-2) When focusing on Ranged

1. Zachary Taylor

As mentioned above, if you use skill book to add Ranged Attack Lv4 (25%), Ranged Attack will be +126%.

2. Ly Thuong Kiet

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +30%, Ranged Defense +30%, Trap triggering rate +60%
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +56%, Defense +20%, HP +10%, All Troops Attack +6%, Hospital Capacity +16%
  • Base Stats – 103 / 107 / 115 / 105
  • Stats Increases – 8.83 / 8.29 / 8.63 / 7.83

If you use skill book to add Ranged Attack Lv4 (25%), Ranged Attack will be +117%.

3. Minamoto no Yoshitsune

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +40% (requires Dragon from Pasture)
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +76% (requires any Dragon), Defense +10%, HP +20%, Siege Attack +10%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 113 / 117 / 106
  • Stats Increase – 9.03 / 8.51 / 8.77 / 8.39

You can’t add ranged attack in the skill book. Ranged Attack will be +116%.

4. Kusunoki Masashige

  • Skill – Ranged Attack +35%, Mounted Attack +20%
  • Specialties – Ranged Attack +45%, Defense +10%, HP +20%, All Troops Attack +6%, Enemy Mounted Attack -20%
  • Base Stats – 112 / 108 / 112 / 115
  • Stats Increase – 9.03 / 8.65 / 8.73 / 8.65

If you use skill book to add Ranged Attack Lv4 (25%), Ranged Attack will be +111%.

B-3) When focusing on Siege

1. Trần Hưng Đạo

  • Skill – Siege Attack +30%, Ground HP +20%
  • Specialties – Siege Attack +60%, Defense +20%, HP +10%, Ranged Attack +10%, Trap triggering rate +20%, Enemy Ranged Attack -30%
  • Base Stats – 108 / 102 / 113 / 109
  • Stats Increases – 8.45 / 8.37 / 8.55 / 8.38

If you use skill book to add Siege Attack Lv4 (25%), Siege Attack will be +115%.

The Ranged debuff is also a nice feature.

2. Ulysses S. Grant

  • Skill – Siege & Mounted Attack +30%  (requires Dragon from Pasture)
  • Specialties – Siege Attack +46%, Defense +10%, HP +20%, Mounted Attack +36%, Ground Attack +10%, March Size Capacity +6%
  • Base Stats – 114 / 120 / 115 / 100
  • Stats Increases – 8.79 / 8.80 / 8.95 / 8.25

If you use skill book to add Siege Attack Lv4 (25%), Siege Attack will be +101%.

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Ketrampilan apa yang terbaik untuk Tran jika ditempatkan sebagai jendral pertahanan?

Anonymous

I currently have accumulated 6 potential Defense Wall Generals:
* Joseph E. Johnston
* Tran Hung Dao
* Zachary Taylor
* Yi Sun-sin
* Kusunoki Masashige
* Robert the Bruce

I was thinking of keeping 3 of these. Probably Joseph E. Johnston, Tran Hung Dao and one other one.
How many would you keep for Defense?

I know Robert the Bruce is more of a Ground General, but do you think he’d make a good Wall General?

If I were, I would keep one general. Because even one general needs enormous effort and cost to craft and refine equipment, general’s specialty, train dragons, and so on. I think it’s better to have one with tremendous strength than to have multiple generals with half-strength.

If you focus on ground troops, I think Robert is a good choice.

Jim Simpson

Thank you for your hard work on this site. The love shows. The leaders of my alliance are recommending Gustavus as the best wall general. They view his debuff stats as the biggest factor. Why do most Evony websites think Johnston is the best? Is there something to pairing the “right” wall general with Ban Chao?

Lord Seth X

Debuffs eventually get maxed out with Ach gear on sub generals. Because of this the debuffs on Gus will eventually be useless. Also, it is generally not a good idea to trade buffs for your entire for debuffs. This is why having debuffs on an attacker is not preferred. The same logic applies to a wall general. You want to maximize buffs for the lead general while having debuffs on the more passive sub city generals. All that said, Gus is still a pretty good wall general. He used to be the best but no where near the top anymore since they added all the specialty wall generals with bigger range and/or siege buffs.

For top players, the debuff can be -600% or more. Therefore, as Lord Seth X said, the debuff skill that Gustavus has is not a big advantage.

The reason why many sites say Joseph E. Johnston is the best is probably the same as my response to Hawk in the comment at the bottom. See also.

I’m not sure what you mean by “pairing the right wall general with Ban Chao”, but there is no other suitable general for the Archer Tower duty officer other than Ban Chao.

Yi Sun-sin is an all-rounder type of defender who does not focus on any type of army.
In my experience, such an army is weaker than an army that focuses on something in this game.
Therefore, I have not included him in the above list.

What type of weapon to use for Johnston? Axe or Bow? I’ve crafted the Achaemenidae gear and working the last piece.

I think one way of thinking is to decide which one to use depending on what kind of enemy you often match with.
– If there are many archer-specific enemies, an Axe.
– If there are many cavalry-specific enemies, a Bow.
I think you should change it depending on the situation.
(Probably better to have a bow in the middle of the game and an axe in the end of the game.)

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>Hi
Why is the general defensive only recommended for long range?
Are there any regrets when you are a ground general?
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Hi😃 I think long range types are important in defense.
Siege’s attack is low, but unlike when attacking, there is no limit to the number of troops we can have when defending, so we can make up for the low attack by having more of them.
And with their long range, they can attack the enemy unilaterally.
I also prefer ranged troops because they are stronger against mounted troops, can counter ranged troops, and if buffed higher can also counter ground troops.
Therefore, I prefer to use a combination of siege machine and ranged troop in defense.

If the enemy attacks with ranged troops, the ground general is a good choice. (Trajan, for example).
However, even in that case, I believe that the number of troops and buffs on the siege machines need to be strengthened. 🤔
Therefore, in this case (ground + siege), I think Tran Hung Dao is also a good choice.

Also, I don’t recommend a cavalry-focused defense at the moment.
For more information, see my reply to Mr. Hawk’s comment below.

日本語訳が難しい…

Thank you for all your help.
I don’t quite understand the description of the defender 😅.
Kusunoki “in city”, Zachary “in city”, Tran, it is not mentioned. I kind of understand that attack is increased when defending, but are there generals that increase attack when attacking if you make them defenders?

Kusunoki, Zachary, and most of the other defense generals all have “in-city” listed in their descriptions.

However, Tran’s description certainly doesn’t have “in-city” in it. Another one, James Bowie, was also not listed.

I actually tested with these two to see if it would work when attacking, but the result was invalid. (It only works when defending main city.)

The other defender without the “in-city” notation is Ly Thuong Kiet, but I don’t have him, so I haven’t been able to verify. 🤔

Эдгар

Нужно ли какие-то навыки или оружие прикрепить офицеру башни лучников бан чао?

>Do I need to attach any skills or weapons to the officer of the tower of archers ban chao?
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No, it doesn’t. Even if you give them, the soldiers in the main city will not get stronger.
Also, i don’t know if the attack power of the archer tower will increase, but even if it does, it will be weak, so i don’t think it is necessary.

Thank you for all your help. I would like to ask a basic question. I understand that some of the generals here have the original skill “when General is the Main City Defense General”, but if I appoint a general with the skill “leading the army” to be a defender, will that have the same effect? For example, if I appoint Minamoto no Yoshitsune, will the archers of the entire army become stronger?

Yes. The troops will also be stronger when the general is made a defender.
In addition, when it says “Marching … Troop Attack” or “leading the army to attack”, both of them have an effect only on the attack. It has no effect when defending.

This is because I don’t recommend a cavalry-focused defense at the moment.
For more information, see my reply to Mr. Hawk’s comment below.

Purple ivy

Any thoughts on new general Zachary Taylor ? is he better than Joseph

Zachary Taylor has been added to the article. (B-1 section)
I don’t think it’s inferior to Joseph, but I don’t think it’s superior either (a matter of direction). 🤔

It means the following.😃
– If you pay a lot of money
– If you only pay a little money
*The text of the article has been adjusted.

I always look forward to seeing your work. I’m using Boudica because I have a lot of cavalry, is it more advantageous to use ranged troops and siege buffs when defending?

My impression is that after the middle of the game, more and more players attack with a ranged specialization.
In this case, a mounted-focused defense is basically a disadvantage.
I think a defense with ranged+siege can be used for a long time in a versatile way, because it can deal with mounted-focused attacks, ranged-focused attacks, and even ground-focused attacks if the buffs are strong enough. 🤔

Thanks for the reply. You’re right. I was thinking that I need to train my defense as well, since I won’t be able to ghost sooner or later. I will prepare a defense general with ranged and siege buffs.

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